Mark Geragos

Somebody sent me a chat room.

It's 20 years ago.

And she says, I really I really hoodwinked that defense lawyer.

I'm going to lie.

Get it on the jury, and I'm going to fry his client.

I was going to say, I don't know what junior high article went to.

I have, but you would have to have some time to your point.

You're absolutely correct.

It's a heavy lift.

You would need some kind of a declaration.

You would need some kind of really compelling evidence that somebody was either, you know, one of the things that I've found, Arthur may have seen this.

You have a jury strike list by the prosecution.

If there was an initial, a B or something for black or some kind of rating.

I've seen that.

I've actually seen that happen where that was discovered years later and it ended up being the basis for a habeas to get somebody.

Arthur, that was a Texas case.

The sleeping lawyer was out of Texas.

I did not know that.

Ineffective assistance is a very high bar because it isn't whether or not if you had Johnny Cochran or you had the second coming of Clarence Darrow.

It's basically, are you, you know, I always joke about probable cause has been reduced.