Mark Geragos

The strict language of the statute would seem to suggest that you have to award fees, but there's still yet another battle.

Even though the order says case closed, they're going to submit their fees request and costs, and then the judge is going to whittle it down.

Brian's team is going to file something that says, no, this was not approved.

what was intended and they're going to go back and forth the judge is going to make the call but it's not going to come out of justin baldoni's pocket this is all going to it's going to be a fight between the insurance companies over who's going to pay this so it's really much ado about nothing

And confirms what you said, Megan, that that settlement was a massive loss for Blake Lively.

Because she paid out of pocket to her attorneys for the entire case.

She's not going to get all of her attorney's fees back.

She's only going to get a siloed specific payment.

discrete amount that are cabined to and tethered to the defense of that countersuit, not the entire case.

So it's not like she's getting some windfall.

She's getting a percentage, some small percentage of what she spent on this case.

She got no damages.

And as you said, the woman who actually authored the law is running as fast away from her as she possibly can.

Arthur, do you know him?

I don't know him.

I knew his father.

I mean, who was Judge Judge Lyman?

His father was a was a worried guy.

Yeah.

I mean, a storied legend and kind of of an Edward Bennett Williams level of of expertise.