Mark Grote

and how he couldn't handle, hated being the voice of a generation, which he was dubbed in the middle 90s, and they hated, hated Pearl Jam, mostly Eddie Vedder, hated their fame because it got to be too much, and it was a huge burden.

So while I hate the answer because it means that we're not going to get as much, Michael, I love the answer, and I accept the answer from MJ.

He's not great at management, like ownership.

MJ will never talk to me again?

Is that what's going to happen?

Having watched just about every inch of the Michael Jordan, you know, he started when I was in junior high.

So he hit me in a place that is like... Your formative years.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

We all can understand that.

So and didn't miss very few games.

I remember Michael Jordan saying something during one of the championship runs, probably the latter three games.

where he said something like where he said i can't wait till i get to be at those restaurants with all these bulls fans eating pizza and drinking beer and i remember thinking what are you talking about you're michael jordan man you're living the life you are the goat you are the greatest why you want to sit here with all of us drunks eating pizza and appetizers because that's what our social lives were and that that like i think about that a lot because that that is like the stress of being michael jordan was something we didn't understand he was lying to himself

No, let himself go.

He was never allowed to let himself go like the rest of us.

The Ryan Sandberg thing that you just brought up, like that comp is interesting because when Rhino played, he was distant.

He did not embrace superstardom.

You know what I mean?

But then, yes, he finally did.

He finally did.

It took him a long time even into retirement before he came out as, I am Ryan Sandberg.