Mark Grote

No.

In fact, I still think he probably will be back.

with the Cubs next year.

But you're crazy if you don't listen to what other teams want to give you for this player.

Mark, you're absolutely right.

You're crazy if you don't listen.

That's a Marshall Harris principle.

That's how I live my life.

I have to have my ears open and be willing to hear what crazy things someone might offer me for whatever.

But at the same time,

I think the point Layla and I agree on here is that you just set yourself up to make a run in 2026.

I would not like a deal that took away from your ability to make as strong a run in 2026 as you could do right now.

And I think trading Nico Horner likely takes away from your ability to make a run before work stoppage in which we don't even know what baseball is going to look like the next time they play the field after this season.

Right, which is why I don't think they would do it unless they felt like they were getting something legitimate.

I don't think the Cubs... Jed Hoyer is not sitting there saying, I want to get rid of Nico Hoyer.

He knows exactly how valuable he is.

The other part of this, too, is the Matt Shaw part of this.

Who?

Mini PCA.

Remember, there was a period of time where I was calling him... No, I was calling him the real PCA.