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Mark Kelly

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The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

I mean, what we said back in November is the law.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

Anybody who graduated from the Military Academy at West Point would often walk by a plaque and it says, when the law and orders are in conflict, you follow the law.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

So I'm not surprised.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

We have incredibly professional people in the military.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

And my hope would be that if the Secretary of Defense, not Secretary of War, the Secretary of Defense were to order them to do something that was unlawful, that they would reject it.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

Yeah, it makes it hard for them to do their jobs.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

I was talking to a mid-grade officer today, you know, specifically about this and how they're struggling.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

Many of them, you know, are struggling with, you know, what have we become as a military?

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

And they're thinking about their service and, you know, they're patriotic people.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

They're incredibly professional.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

But when you have this kind of leadership,

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

especially at the top, it is a challenge for them.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

They have to think about, what are we doing here?

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

And I feel for these guys.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

And I did not want to see members of the military put in a position where they have to make these kind of decisions.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

But that's where we find ourselves.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

That's a contrast, you know, for the time, right?

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

It makes me think back to 1968 Apollo 10, where Frank Borman, who, by the way, was from Tucson, was the commander of the mission.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

I'm here in Tucson today.

The Briefing with Jen Psaki
'Complete catastrophe': Trump faces widespread consequences for Iran blunder

Got a telegram from just like a random citizen who said, you saved 1968 Apollo.