Mark Kerr

I think still to this day, he's the oldest Olympic medalist.

Wow.

Because you just don't, you just, I mean, wrestling's just so demanding physically.

It's such a young sport.

Oh, yeah, it is, it is.

So he ends up, he ends up, he ends up

just really taken me by the hand and, and understanding like singular devotion to something.

It's, he would, back then he did tape study, which wasn't a huge, huge deal, but literally watching the Russians wrestle in some of the tapes, his nemesis was this guy, Kdartsev.

And you look and watch the tapes and go, I don't see anything.

Once you slowed it down, you go, you can't move him out of position.

He doesn't,

When he attacks and retreats, he's never out of position.

And, you know, you look at it and go, wow.

Because it was just these little things, little things that made a difference.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and it's and again, I would think that somewhere in there, there's a root.

There's a common like there's coaches and mentors because the only way I've learned how to wrestle or MMA is through mentorship.

You know, somebody really going, hey, let me let me show you.

And they had a mentor and they had a mentor.

It's this lineage that's passed along.