Mark Kerr

Once you slowed it down, you go, you can't move him out of position.

He doesn't,

When he attacks and retreats, he's never out of position.

And, you know, you look at it and go, wow.

Because it was just these little things, little things that made a difference.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and it's and again, I would think that somewhere in there, there's a root.

There's a common like there's coaches and mentors because the only way I've learned how to wrestle or MMA is through mentorship.

You know, somebody really going, hey, let me let me show you.

And they had a mentor and they had a mentor.

It's this lineage that's passed along.

And I know I went from being a good wrestler to being a really good wrestler when Chris took me under his wing.

You know, we'd drill the same thing thousands of times, and it would be like the difference between holding my hand here and holding it here.

And I'd go, it's two inches.

What's the difference?

And he'd go...

when you speed it up to full speed, those two inches become six, right?

And so- The leverage points.

Yeah.

And so I need them to be here, perfect.