Mark Kerr

boom mic in like five people I'm like oh fuck you're you're like you're really gonna make it like you're gonna make a documentary

And so he was right from the get go.

John could see John could see what was the contrast like me as a fighter and me as a person, that contrast.

And so that's what he was after is like to to really show this contrast.

And like you can do this for a living and be this kind, sensitive, you know, that was what was weird about you.

Yeah.

into the cage and it's like who the fuck is that guy you know you know what the feeling is the feeling is like the question i always had in my head is going okay if somebody's gonna go you me in a room who the fuck's coming out and i never was able to answer that question for myself i know i was competitive right but i didn't know if i had that switch that thing and then start fighting and going oh fuck man they're

There's a switch in there.

And I figured through that process, what I was really trying to get is your will.

I was trying to take your fucking will.

And most people don't want to give it.

Right.

Like when you get a high level fighter, it's like Fabio Gajal didn't want to give me his will.

Headbutted him, dug into cuts, did all this, beat him mercilessly.

And he didn't want to give me his will.

He wouldn't give it to me.

And it frustrated me.

I didn't know how to take it from him.

I'm going, I'm out of answers.

Yeah.