Mark Kerr

And you understand, obviously, way better than I do.

But, you know, like ahead of his time, just like when Gracie came along ahead of his time, you know, in presenting something where he's knocking down all these stereotypes.

yeah and they have rigid stereotypes back oh well you'd have you'd have to like get in gang fights to protect the the style that you were like do you know do you know like like so i started training at beverly hills jiu-jitsu club right in california so so so uh so boss would have me boss would have me out there avi rubin is a guy that owned it and i would go out there and i would teach wrestling a couple days out of the week it's how i got introduced to boss

Oleg Tatarov, Marco Huas, and Pedro Rizzo.

They were training out of there as well.

So you would get these guys, jiu-jitsu guys, that would sit on the outside, wait until the other students were gone, draw all the blinds, lock the doors, and go, can you teach us wrestling?

because they were so afraid that if they got caught there with me, it was like a traitor.

Oh, that's hilarious.

So you would get like... That's so crazy.

It didn't make any sense to me because you would figure sharing information would be better.

And it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Jiu-jitsu, we're not sharing shit.

You can't participate.

It was so fucking archaic, like the outlook.

And it's like looking back on it and going, wow, that's dogma.

That's like, yeah.

No, they didn't.

A hundred percent.

Like, why don't you just show him something that works?

I rewound that tape probably 50 times.