Mark Kerr

It has to be.

I mean, all of it is, right?

I mean, just like you're saying, like the outliers, it's a mental thing that they have a level or a gear they can get to that everybody else just can't.

Yeah.

That's the ability to be able to be just have the self perspective.

Right.

This in-depth honesty, because a lot of it like I literally before Chris Campbell.

Right.

I was just talking about I thought I was training fucking hard.

I thought I fucking, I thought like I'm training fucking hard.

And he just grabbed me by the hand.

He goes, no, let me show you what hard is.

Right.

And so it was this routine where it's like it's in college, my senior year, 6 a.m.

I get up, he would pick me up and I wouldn't be a minute late.

I had a chair that I put next to the door that I slept in for the last, because one time being late, he just throttled me and I'm like, it ain't never happening again.

Ain't fucking ever happened again, man Slept in the chair next to the door, you know, I'd be like, all right because he would just give two beeps beep beep and All right, I'm up, you know in fucking out the front door.

We go to the gym We train in the morning.

So we do wrestling drills stuff like that.

And then I'm gonna do cardio or strength He would go to work.