Mark Manson

josh and this story quite a bit publicly it's in my book it was an awful and tragic experience but like it was one of the most important things that ever happened to me and that is the fast way to change

And this is why I don't think people actually want the fast way to change.

Even if it doesn't involve a tragedy, there's actually a few ways it can happen.

None of them are particularly pleasant or like easygoing.

I think there's a real false impression that's been generated by the self-help industry that instantaneous transformation, kind of this euphoric epiphany

that happens at a weekend seminar that it's like a party that it it feels like a celebration it's this out of body experience and you go home and just everything's great and you're never the same again i think that's a myth and we'll get into the psychological reasons in this in this chapter it largely has to do with

the nature of that instantaneous change.

It requires a certain amount of collapse of everything that you've known and understood prior.

Yeah.

There's like some sort of foundational questioning of everything.

Even let's say I had gone and done 100 hours of therapy, right?

And like me and the therapist dug that deep to get to that layer.

I don't think it's something that you can necessarily simply intellectually question, or at least not over a short period of time.

Like I do think there needs to be

some sort of intense life experience that goes along with it.

But let's get into the science of it.

The science itself is interesting, and then also what's interesting is how little science there is on it.

It's just incredibly hard to study, as we'll see.

Yeah, it's shocking.

I mean...