Mark Mitchell

Or has he just made that up and it's not a thing at all?

I think their approach is to just try and remain a small target.

That's why you're not seeing any major policy coming out.

They definitely wouldn't know how to deal with the situation that we're dealing with now.

That's why you're not seeing anything come out from them there in terms of policing.

Ginny's been out with our beat squads that we stood up congratulating them on the outstanding work.

I'm just saying it was great.

Well, it doesn't sound like it to me.

It sounds like you're having a go at them.

They're doing an outstanding job.

Yeah, well, when you talk to those cops, when you talk to those cops, Mark, and you say...

when they were last in government, was reduce the prison population by 30%.

And look what we got.

Massive crime around the country.

Well, I'll tell you what.

So that's a great return on investment because we got 14 coming back.

And that's going to say $560,000.

So $35,000 spent on the advertising is actually pretty good.

So $35,000 to get 14 back is what you're claiming, two per copper?

No, so from what I understand, well, it's already paid back because two have come back.