Mark Mitchell

But one thing that is clear is there will be a focus on countries that are, quote, social democracies.

Who are they?

Well, you, obviously, New Zealand, but the UK, the US, and Japan were the three countries that Angus Taylor mentioned.

Tony Burke, who holds a seat in Sydney full of people who have migrated from the Middle East...

also slammed the policy in saying that Angus Taylor doesn't know what he's doing.

So this is the first real shot, I think, Mike, in the lead-up to the next election.

So two-part question.

Part one is, so they're all the right, centre-right, conservatives, whatever you want to call them, on roughly the same page.

Does Angus Taylor gain from the Pauline Hanson crowd?

Does he get them back?

Part two, can the government...

defend what they're doing and when it's Gazans and stuff say no we want more of these sort of people are they in trouble with this?

Yeah the government can't defend that and they've in fact talked already quietly about what they might do with the wait for this figure 65,000 visa overstayers who are currently in Australia and have been here for many years how do you round those people up and move them out of the country without someone saying

Well, you're just being like Donald Trump and his ice mob and you're trying to ruin the good lives of people who are trying to stay in Australia.

So One Nation, can Angus Taylor pull the vote back there?

Potentially.

The first test will come with this Faribault election, which is coming up in a few weeks.

We will see who wins that.

I'm predicting an independent Teal will win that seat.

So...