Mark Potash

This is the way you do it.

And it's just funny that they just happen to start doing things right like that, even though one small thing, it doesn't matter to a lot of people, when Ben Johnson gets here.

So I think that's the most important thing as far as you talk about sustainability and will they grow from here.

I think Ben Johnson, he's the difference right now.

We'll see.

At this point in time, Matt Nagy, I think he even kind of implied in stories about his candidacy that were done later in the season for a head coaching job that he wasn't the same guy.

He stopped being you in year two.

We'll see if that happens.

And all of a sudden he was different.

And things changed in year two for him.

And we'll see if that happens to Ben Johnson.

But I highly doubt it, just knowing –

even from afar, not being in the building like I used to be, even from afar, I can just see that his fortitude, just the power of his will, his personality, if you will, is strong enough to sustain that and make changes.

They do things

From them just breaking the bank to pay him and from Ryan Poles trading for Joe Tooney and signing Drew Dallman instead of Ryan Bates and –

Who's the lineman, the guard?

Noah Jackson or Jonah – oh, Nate Davis.

Oh, last year.

Yeah.

My point is look at the impact he's made.