Mark Potash

And then as I reflected, I was like, okay, this probably was something that they planned out, that they wanted Ben Johnson to be the biggest voice there.

They definitely wanted Ryan Poles to have his say, but they wanted that to be the power.

They wanted to show us that day, football-wise, that that's where the power is.

And they didn't want the stadium talk to bring everybody down.

Well, there's that.

Which would have dominated the conversation with both of those guys.

Yeah.

I think they realized that that was not a winning situation for them.

So that was a smart move on their part.

But you're making smart moves.

That's good.

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