Mark Rober

As opposed to, which is how you put stuff on Mars and really make anything, prototypes.

You just do something quick and dirty first.

In fact, you do like four of them.

And you tweak and try and those, they shouldn't be pretty, they're ugly.

They're meant to just be tests and you learn from them.

And then once you've established all those learning, and by the way, some of those prototypes, you break.

You intentionally fail them to learn the limits.

And then once you've done all that learning, now you know enough to attempt the final thing.

And so really ingrained in the philosophy of NASA, which is something I've now taken into my life and how I make builds for my YouTube channel and even approach YouTube, is like, I don't know.

Like, I don't know the answer, but you know what?

I could test to find out.

So whenever we do anything, it's like...

There's so many versions that fail before you get to the final output and failing is the goal.

Like you want to break this thing.

So if I know I have to design the wheels for the Rover, you know, I'm going to make them out of three materials.

I'm going to do some analysis on a computer and then I'm going to have a bunch of different thicknesses and I'm going to test it and I'm going to smash it.

I'm going to break it because now I'm confident when I have my final answer, I know exactly why it is and the full limits of it, like what it's capable of.

What's your relationship like with failure?

I like, I embrace failure and I like, I teach that.

So in my videos, so we just did a video where he made a goalie robot that goes back and forth at like 40 miles an hour.