Mark Ronson

I mean, you just heard it, how mournful.

It's just so beautiful.

But the drums are so driving and groovy and incredible.

And there's something about loss and mourning that's in the lyrics.

And I just heard it, and it just got under my skin in such a way.

And I just was like, this is what I want to do.

Whatever I have to do to only be around this music from now on, that's what I want.

And that was kind of the turning point when I decided to become a DJ.

Yeah, and I think I said, like, I got back to my drummer's house and I stayed over at his house because it was just one of those nights like you do anything not to go home, like even if you're sleeping on someone's couch, just to be in the next room from someone.

And I just remember listening to his, he had a single, cassette single, and I listened to it over and over again, like chasing the ache.

Like, you know, when there's something that's just sad, but you just like want to absolutely fully dive into it.

And that was a real turning point for me.

Well, I think you're exactly right.

This is an example that the most beautiful moment of a song could be somewhere in the middle, and there's a tendency when you're sampling or quote-unquote digging for breaks, you're just kind of listening to the beginning three seconds of every song.

But you talk to any legendary producer from that time, DJ Premier or Q-Tip, they were always listening to the whole record.

Dilla, one of the most celebrated producers, always would.

But I love...

I love that you played that song, A, thank you, and B, it's so emblematic of that time.

Because I'm so obsessed with the Pete Rock song, I know all the folklore, and there was this famous record convention that would happen a few times a year at the Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown.

and everybody would go to find their breaks in the 90s.