Mark Sainsbury

And so I'd always say, look, I'm sorry, I'm contractually obliged not to shave it off because it's going to cause problems for all the publicity photos and everything like that, which actually did happen once with Richard Long.

He went off for the holidays, had done all the publicity photos for the next year, and he shaved his moustache off.

They had to fly everyone back to do it again.

Yeah, yeah.

So she's got a practice out in Kilbirnie.

Ramona Rash at law.

She does a lot of elder care.

She's really good with... That's a huge growth.

It's sort of, you know, enduring powers for attorneys and estates and that sort of stuff.

But she's really good with people.

That's her thing.

That's her feedback.

I mean, I get this from clients who say, oh, we love your wife.

You know, she's so fantastic.

But it's tough, you know, and just running a business even in Wellington is tough.

You know, for everyone.

We got married in 1984.

Yeah, that's incredible.

I mean, it's had its ups and downs.

I mean, I went to the UK for three years as a Europe correspondent.