Mark Sainsbury

The murder house.

There's still, I always remember the nuns with this Catholic primary school, and they're right up, you knew this, this is the people who are going to have to go to the dentist that afternoon.

And you'd be sitting there, please, please, please, don't make it me, don't make it me, don't make it me.

And you go down to the murder house,

And it's just when you think about it and you look at all these things where they have, you know, survivors of different, you know, cruel treatments by the government can sue since when they bring in kids and drilling into their nerves without anesthetic was considered a good idea, you know.

It was just so painful, and you just dreaded going, and yeah, it was... I think I got the... So you were born in 56.

I know.

I know.

It's wild.

The only good thing, I mean, was, you know, was to get these quite buxom ones would sort of press up on your neck, you know, as they're sort of doing this thing.

So there's a strange mix of youthful, not quite what's going on here thoughts and pain, you know.

So it's a surprise we didn't all become sort of sadomasochists.

So how many brothers did you share a bedroom with?

No, usually just two of us to a room.

Right.

So you had a four-bedroom house?

No, we had a three... Oh, well, hang on.

Yes, yes, yes, we did.

But it started off... They moved into the house in Heratonga when I was born, and then they had two more kids, and so they had to add an extension on out the back.

Really funny.