Mark Sainsbury

Yeah, at the start.

And I'd got into student politics, you know, stood for the exec and all that sort of stuff, and then left and went driving buses.

I thought, go and get a bit of...

Yeah, no, I quite liked it.

I can't think what, it was just like, yeah, I want to do something or I was broke or just decided to go and do something else, come back to it.

Oh, late 70s.

Yeah, so I'd been driving buses, and I was the bar manager at Barrett's Hotel for a while.

That was an interesting time, because that was a big student pub.

And you're the manager and say, oh, trouble down in the public bar.

Oh, my God.

But we had the bad bounces.

And the best time of all, I had a guy called Jeff Rackley, who was a New Zealand boxing champion.

And they'd say, trouble in the bar upstairs.

So you go walking up.

He's behind you.

And you were fearless.

Because you knew whatever happens, you'd just take one step to the left, one step back, and in comes Jeff, you know.

So because you were fearless, people pick up on it.

So you'd come in and say, right, you guys out of here.

You've had enough.