Mark Schwarzer

Just let's pick your mind on the Elijah Hollins scenario, how it's played out so far and what's to be learnt.

Where would you like to start?

So I think there's a lot there, and this is a flashpoint for the industry.

It's just interesting.

You probably need hindsight to fully assess, but the first flinch is to let's do something.

So let's stage a mental health game.

We seem to have forgotten we already do that with Spud's game, which is a poignant touchpoint across the season.

Maybe that could be expanded upon.

But...

That's one of those measures that will make us all feel better.

We're doing something.

We're acknowledging that there actually needs to be some industry-wide tangible action plan built on what you've just explained.

Do you think it's more challenging now than it was when you started out for a player?

Yeah, and that clearly pitfalls that combination.

Right.

And that's not a one-week or one-month exercise.

That's a long-term project, isn't it?

Since last we spoke, Phil, Dave Matthews has announced that his tenure as the chief executive of the Giants is going to come to a close at the end of the 2026 season.

He has taken on one of the most formidable tasks the sport had ever had, really.

I think the league and the club owe him a great debt of gratitude for what he's guided the Giants through.