Mark Siljander

But his punishment is that he doesn't lead the Israelites into the promised land. So, the God of the Old Testament, who's manifested, let's say, in the Spirit of Christ, is... Someone who radically opposes the use of unnecessary force, right? Now, it isn't that Moses has no strength of character because he stands up against the Pharaoh multiple times, puts his own life at risk.

But his punishment is that he doesn't lead the Israelites into the promised land. So, the God of the Old Testament, who's manifested, let's say, in the Spirit of Christ, is... Someone who radically opposes the use of unnecessary force, right? Now, it isn't that Moses has no strength of character because he stands up against the Pharaoh multiple times, puts his own life at risk.

He's a very brave person, but he's still severely punished for using force when verbal invitation is the order of the day. Right, right. And so... It's possible to have that power at your back and still be morally obliged to use as little of it as necessary to let's say, to make your point. Okay, so now you're off to Palestine. You're running into opposition from the neocons.

He's a very brave person, but he's still severely punished for using force when verbal invitation is the order of the day. Right, right. And so... It's possible to have that power at your back and still be morally obliged to use as little of it as necessary to let's say, to make your point. Okay, so now you're off to Palestine. You're running into opposition from the neocons.

He's a very brave person, but he's still severely punished for using force when verbal invitation is the order of the day. Right, right. And so... It's possible to have that power at your back and still be morally obliged to use as little of it as necessary to let's say, to make your point. Okay, so now you're off to Palestine. You're running into opposition from the neocons.

You have an epiphany that you should be reaching out and talking. That becomes a practical necessity with regards to the Palestinians. Pick up the story there.

You have an epiphany that you should be reaching out and talking. That becomes a practical necessity with regards to the Palestinians. Pick up the story there.

You have an epiphany that you should be reaching out and talking. That becomes a practical necessity with regards to the Palestinians. Pick up the story there.

Yes, and we engaged and talked and broke bread and had tea.

Yes, and we engaged and talked and broke bread and had tea.

Yes, and we engaged and talked and broke bread and had tea.

How did you do that exactly? Walk us through the mechanisms.

How did you do that exactly? Walk us through the mechanisms.

How did you do that exactly? Walk us through the mechanisms.

Well, I mean, when you're in Congress, you can, you know, you tell the embassy, my interest is to see some Palestinians. I said, well, that wouldn't be recommended or advised. I said... Note taken. I still want to see Palestinians, some of the leaders, and some average people. We walked down some of the streets in the West Bank and talked to people and knocked down their doors.

Well, I mean, when you're in Congress, you can, you know, you tell the embassy, my interest is to see some Palestinians. I said, well, that wouldn't be recommended or advised. I said... Note taken. I still want to see Palestinians, some of the leaders, and some average people. We walked down some of the streets in the West Bank and talked to people and knocked down their doors.

Well, I mean, when you're in Congress, you can, you know, you tell the embassy, my interest is to see some Palestinians. I said, well, that wouldn't be recommended or advised. I said... Note taken. I still want to see Palestinians, some of the leaders, and some average people. We walked down some of the streets in the West Bank and talked to people and knocked down their doors.

I felt like we were in another campaign of sorts. And it was exhilarating. And I can't even specify why. It was like meeting new people, a new constituency. But there was something missing, Jordan. I was trying to find common ground. One can be a nice person, a diplomat, break bread, which is critical in building interpersonal relationship, but there is no spiritual connectivity.

I felt like we were in another campaign of sorts. And it was exhilarating. And I can't even specify why. It was like meeting new people, a new constituency. But there was something missing, Jordan. I was trying to find common ground. One can be a nice person, a diplomat, break bread, which is critical in building interpersonal relationship, but there is no spiritual connectivity.

I felt like we were in another campaign of sorts. And it was exhilarating. And I can't even specify why. It was like meeting new people, a new constituency. But there was something missing, Jordan. I was trying to find common ground. One can be a nice person, a diplomat, break bread, which is critical in building interpersonal relationship, but there is no spiritual connectivity.