Mark Urban

But then again, you come back to this point about combined arms.

And I think when we look at the 73 War, air power, of course, is absolutely critical.

And once the Israelis stabilize the situation, both...

having lost quite a few aircraft in the first 48 hours of the war and a lot of tanks, and use their air power effectively, it exposes the Syrians and the Egyptians to all sorts of harm.

But yes, there are battles on the Golan where some of those centurions, it is almost like Eastern Front stuff, they notch up 20 kills or they indeed register,

that they've been hit 10, 15, 20 times, and somehow they're still operating.

So yeah, it's a brutal slugging match, particularly on the Golan Heights.

But again, it's the victory of the orchestra of war that the bringing together of all arms brings the Israeli success in that conflict.

Yes, I think they have.

Well, I think what's proving very difficult for what you might call legacy systems, and we could extend that to warships and fighter jets as well, is the advent of what some people call the transparent battlefield.

Now, I'm not that old, but even 45 years ago, when I was being trained as a young soldier,

The whole principle was, and we were told, you know, if you can be seen, you can be killed.

And therefore, everything was about using the ground to conceal your movements.

So you'd go up a sort of canyon or river valley or something to hide yourself from the enemy you were advancing towards.

so they couldn't see you.

And of course, now all of that is opened up by drones being overhead.

And that ability to actually bring force together and concentrate force and advance has become really open to question.

Add to that the use of an increasing number of satellites, which even countries like Ukraine and Iran have been able to access commercial imagery of very high quality.

The Iranians seeing those American jets flying

at air bases in Saudi Arabia and then aiming their missiles at them.