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Mark Zuckerberg

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

Well, there are multiple vulnerabilities in all this stuff. It's unclear. I doubt that what they did was they broke signal. Because that encryption, I think, is pretty good, as is WhatsApp. I mean, it's basically Signal and WhatsApp use the same encryption. It's an open source. NSA. NSA. Okay. But someone could break into your phone and see everything that's on your phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

Well, there are multiple vulnerabilities in all this stuff. It's unclear. I doubt that what they did was they broke signal. Because that encryption, I think, is pretty good, as is WhatsApp. I mean, it's basically Signal and WhatsApp use the same encryption. It's an open source. NSA. NSA. Okay. But someone could break into your phone and see everything that's on your phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

Well, there are multiple vulnerabilities in all this stuff. It's unclear. I doubt that what they did was they broke signal. Because that encryption, I think, is pretty good, as is WhatsApp. I mean, it's basically Signal and WhatsApp use the same encryption. It's an open source. NSA. NSA. Okay. But someone could break into your phone and see everything that's on your phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

The thing that encryption does that's really good is it makes it so that the company that's running the service doesn't see it. So if you're using WhatsApp, basically, when I text you on WhatsApp, there's no point at which the meta servers see the contents of that message. Unless we took a photo of it or shared that back to meta in some other way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

The thing that encryption does that's really good is it makes it so that the company that's running the service doesn't see it. So if you're using WhatsApp, basically, when I text you on WhatsApp, there's no point at which the meta servers see the contents of that message. Unless we took a photo of it or shared that back to meta in some other way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

The thing that encryption does that's really good is it makes it so that the company that's running the service doesn't see it. So if you're using WhatsApp, basically, when I text you on WhatsApp, there's no point at which the meta servers see the contents of that message. Unless we took a photo of it or shared that back to meta in some other way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

That basically, it cuts out the company completely from it, which is, I think, really important for a bunch of reasons. One is people might not trust the company, but also just security issues. Let's say someone... hacks into meta, which, you know, we try really hard to make it so they can't. And we haven't had many issues with that over the 20 years of running the company.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

That basically, it cuts out the company completely from it, which is, I think, really important for a bunch of reasons. One is people might not trust the company, but also just security issues. Let's say someone... hacks into meta, which, you know, we try really hard to make it so they can't. And we haven't had many issues with that over the 20 years of running the company.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

That basically, it cuts out the company completely from it, which is, I think, really important for a bunch of reasons. One is people might not trust the company, but also just security issues. Let's say someone... hacks into meta, which, you know, we try really hard to make it so they can't. And we haven't had many issues with that over the 20 years of running the company.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

But in theory, if someone did, then they'd be able to access everyone's messages if it weren't encrypted. But because it's encrypted, there's just nothing there, right? It's like, I mean, they can't hack into meta and then get access to your messages. So now someone like the NSA or CIA would have to kind of hack into your phone, which, you know, there are probably ways to do that. Pegasus.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

But in theory, if someone did, then they'd be able to access everyone's messages if it weren't encrypted. But because it's encrypted, there's just nothing there, right? It's like, I mean, they can't hack into meta and then get access to your messages. So now someone like the NSA or CIA would have to kind of hack into your phone, which, you know, there are probably ways to do that. Pegasus.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

But in theory, if someone did, then they'd be able to access everyone's messages if it weren't encrypted. But because it's encrypted, there's just nothing there, right? It's like, I mean, they can't hack into meta and then get access to your messages. So now someone like the NSA or CIA would have to kind of hack into your phone, which, you know, there are probably ways to do that. Pegasus.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I mean, there are probably a bunch of ways.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I mean, there are probably a bunch of ways.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I mean, there are probably a bunch of ways.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And then, of course, there's always the ultimate kind of physical part of it, which is if you have access to the computer, you can usually just break in. Right. So that's why. If the FBI arrests you and takes your phone, they're probably going to be able to get in and see what's there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And then, of course, there's always the ultimate kind of physical part of it, which is if you have access to the computer, you can usually just break in. Right. So that's why. If the FBI arrests you and takes your phone, they're probably going to be able to get in and see what's there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And then, of course, there's always the ultimate kind of physical part of it, which is if you have access to the computer, you can usually just break in. Right. So that's why. If the FBI arrests you and takes your phone, they're probably going to be able to get in and see what's there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, and I mean this is one of the reasons why we put disappearing messages in too because that way – I mean, yeah, if someone has compromised your phone and they can see everything that's going on there, then obviously they can see stuff as it comes in. But I kind of in general just think we should keep around as little of that stuff as possible.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, and I mean this is one of the reasons why we put disappearing messages in too because that way – I mean, yeah, if someone has compromised your phone and they can see everything that's going on there, then obviously they can see stuff as it comes in. But I kind of in general just think we should keep around as little of that stuff as possible.