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Mark Zuckerberg

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

There's this continuum of computing where now you have a mobile device that you can take with you all the time, and that's amazing, but it's small. kind of pulls you away from other interactions. Those things are not great, but there was sort of this recognition that just like there was the transition from computers to mobile, mobile was not going to be the end of the line.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So as soon as we started becoming like a more, I don't know, I guess I'd say stable company, like once we found our footing on mobile and

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So as soon as we started becoming like a more, I don't know, I guess I'd say stable company, like once we found our footing on mobile and

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So as soon as we started becoming like a more, I don't know, I guess I'd say stable company, like once we found our footing on mobile and

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

we weren't like clearly going to go out of business or something like that i was like okay let's start planting some seeds for what we think could be the future right it's like mobile is already kind of getting defined you know by 2012 2014-ish it was generally too late to to really shape that platform in a meaningful way i mean we had some experiments i mean they didn't succeed or go anywhere

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

we weren't like clearly going to go out of business or something like that i was like okay let's start planting some seeds for what we think could be the future right it's like mobile is already kind of getting defined you know by 2012 2014-ish it was generally too late to to really shape that platform in a meaningful way i mean we had some experiments i mean they didn't succeed or go anywhere

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

we weren't like clearly going to go out of business or something like that i was like okay let's start planting some seeds for what we think could be the future right it's like mobile is already kind of getting defined you know by 2012 2014-ish it was generally too late to to really shape that platform in a meaningful way i mean we had some experiments i mean they didn't succeed or go anywhere

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So pretty quickly I was like, okay, we should focus on the future because just like there's the shift from desktop to mobile, new things are going to be possible in the future. So what is that? I think the kind of simplest version of it is basically what you started seeing with Orion, right? It's like the vision is a normal pair of glasses. that can do two really fundamental things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So pretty quickly I was like, okay, we should focus on the future because just like there's the shift from desktop to mobile, new things are going to be possible in the future. So what is that? I think the kind of simplest version of it is basically what you started seeing with Orion, right? It's like the vision is a normal pair of glasses. that can do two really fundamental things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So pretty quickly I was like, okay, we should focus on the future because just like there's the shift from desktop to mobile, new things are going to be possible in the future. So what is that? I think the kind of simplest version of it is basically what you started seeing with Orion, right? It's like the vision is a normal pair of glasses. that can do two really fundamental things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

One is put holograms in the world to deliver this realistic sense of presence, like you were there with another person or in another place, or maybe you're physically with a person, but just like we did, you can pull up a virtual pong game or whatever. You can work on things together. You can sit at a coffee shop, pull up your whole workstation of different monitors.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

One is put holograms in the world to deliver this realistic sense of presence, like you were there with another person or in another place, or maybe you're physically with a person, but just like we did, you can pull up a virtual pong game or whatever. You can work on things together. You can sit at a coffee shop, pull up your whole workstation of different monitors.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

One is put holograms in the world to deliver this realistic sense of presence, like you were there with another person or in another place, or maybe you're physically with a person, but just like we did, you can pull up a virtual pong game or whatever. You can work on things together. You can sit at a coffee shop, pull up your whole workstation of different monitors.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

You can be on a flight or in the backseat of a car and pull up a full-screen movie theater and like, okay, all these things. Great computing, full sense of presence, like you're there with people no matter where they are. Thing two is it's the ideal device for AI. And the reason for that is because glasses are sort of uniquely positioned

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

You can be on a flight or in the backseat of a car and pull up a full-screen movie theater and like, okay, all these things. Great computing, full sense of presence, like you're there with people no matter where they are. Thing two is it's the ideal device for AI. And the reason for that is because glasses are sort of uniquely positioned

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

You can be on a flight or in the backseat of a car and pull up a full-screen movie theater and like, okay, all these things. Great computing, full sense of presence, like you're there with people no matter where they are. Thing two is it's the ideal device for AI. And the reason for that is because glasses are sort of uniquely positioned

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For you to be able to let them see what you see and hear what you hear and give you very subtle feedback back to you where they can speak in your ear or they can have silent input that kind of shows up on the glasses that other people can't see and doesn't take you away from the world around you. And I think that that is all going to be really profound.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For you to be able to let them see what you see and hear what you hear and give you very subtle feedback back to you where they can speak in your ear or they can have silent input that kind of shows up on the glasses that other people can't see and doesn't take you away from the world around you. And I think that that is all going to be really profound.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For you to be able to let them see what you see and hear what you hear and give you very subtle feedback back to you where they can speak in your ear or they can have silent input that kind of shows up on the glasses that other people can't see and doesn't take you away from the world around you. And I think that that is all going to be really profound.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

When we got started with this, I had thought that kind of the hologram part of this was going to be possible before AI. So it's sort of an interesting twist of fate that the AI part is actually possible before the holograms are really able to be mass produced at kind of an affordable price. But that was sort of the vision. I think that it's pretty easy to wrap your head around