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Mark Zuckerberg

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

We have this big software development effort, and we're kind of adding features continuously and developing the ecosystem, right? So you get more apps. So Spotify and all these different things kind of can work more natively. So the glasses just get more and more useful, which I think is also going to increase demand over time. And how does it interact with phones?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I mean, like you said, I don't think people are getting rid of phones anytime soon. The way I kind of think about this is that When phones became the primary computing platform, we didn't get rid of computers. We just kind of shifted, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I mean, like you said, I don't think people are getting rid of phones anytime soon. The way I kind of think about this is that When phones became the primary computing platform, we didn't get rid of computers. We just kind of shifted, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I mean, like you said, I don't think people are getting rid of phones anytime soon. The way I kind of think about this is that When phones became the primary computing platform, we didn't get rid of computers. We just kind of shifted, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So I don't know if you have this experience, but at some point in the early 2010s, I noticed that I'd be sitting at my desk in front of my computer and I'd just pull out my phone to do things. I think what's going to happen It's not like we're gonna throw away our phones, but I think slowly we're just gonna start doing more things with our glasses and leaving our phones in our pockets more.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So I don't know if you have this experience, but at some point in the early 2010s, I noticed that I'd be sitting at my desk in front of my computer and I'd just pull out my phone to do things. I think what's going to happen It's not like we're gonna throw away our phones, but I think slowly we're just gonna start doing more things with our glasses and leaving our phones in our pockets more.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So I don't know if you have this experience, but at some point in the early 2010s, I noticed that I'd be sitting at my desk in front of my computer and I'd just pull out my phone to do things. I think what's going to happen It's not like we're gonna throw away our phones, but I think slowly we're just gonna start doing more things with our glasses and leaving our phones in our pockets more.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And it's not like we're done with our computers and I don't think we're gonna be done with our phones for a while, but there's a pretty clear path where you're just gonna use your glasses for more and more things. Over time, glasses are also going to be able to be powered by wrist-based wearables or other wearables.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And it's not like we're done with our computers and I don't think we're gonna be done with our phones for a while, but there's a pretty clear path where you're just gonna use your glasses for more and more things. Over time, glasses are also going to be able to be powered by wrist-based wearables or other wearables.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And it's not like we're done with our computers and I don't think we're gonna be done with our phones for a while, but there's a pretty clear path where you're just gonna use your glasses for more and more things. Over time, glasses are also going to be able to be powered by wrist-based wearables or other wearables.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So you're going to wake up one day 10 years from now, and you're not even going to need to bring your phone with you. Now, you're still going to have a phone, but I think more of the time people are going to leave it in their pocket or leave it in their bag or eventually even some of the time leave it at home.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So you're going to wake up one day 10 years from now, and you're not even going to need to bring your phone with you. Now, you're still going to have a phone, but I think more of the time people are going to leave it in their pocket or leave it in their bag or eventually even some of the time leave it at home.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

So you're going to wake up one day 10 years from now, and you're not even going to need to bring your phone with you. Now, you're still going to have a phone, but I think more of the time people are going to leave it in their pocket or leave it in their bag or eventually even some of the time leave it at home.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And I think there will just be this sort of gradual shift to glasses becoming the main way that we do computing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And I think there will just be this sort of gradual shift to glasses becoming the main way that we do computing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And I think there will just be this sort of gradual shift to glasses becoming the main way that we do computing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I agree. I mean, I still think it's early. I think you really want to be able to not just ask the AI questions, but ask it to do things. Yeah. and know that it's going to reliably go do it. And we're starting with simple things, right? So voice control of your glasses, although you can do that on phones too, things like reminders, although you can generally do that on phones too.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I agree. I mean, I still think it's early. I think you really want to be able to not just ask the AI questions, but ask it to do things. Yeah. and know that it's going to reliably go do it. And we're starting with simple things, right? So voice control of your glasses, although you can do that on phones too, things like reminders, although you can generally do that on phones too.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I agree. I mean, I still think it's early. I think you really want to be able to not just ask the AI questions, but ask it to do things. Yeah. and know that it's going to reliably go do it. And we're starting with simple things, right? So voice control of your glasses, although you can do that on phones too, things like reminders, although you can generally do that on phones too.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I think as the model capabilities grow over the next couple of generations and you get more of what people call these agentic capabilities, I think it's gonna start to get pretty exciting. For what it's worth, I also think that all the AI work is gonna make phones a lot more exciting. It's the most exciting thing I think that has happened to our