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Mark Zuckerberg

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

It started off just connected to Instagram and now we also connected it so that the content can show up. You know, taking a step back, I mean, we just talked about how for most people, they're interacting in more private forums. If you're a creator, what you want to do is have your content show up everywhere, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Because you're trying to build the biggest community that you can in these different places. So it's this huge value for people if they can generate a reel or a video or some text-based content, and now you can post it in threads, Instagram, Facebook, and more places over time. So I think the direction there is generally kind of more flow, not less, and kind of more interoperability.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Because you're trying to build the biggest community that you can in these different places. So it's this huge value for people if they can generate a reel or a video or some text-based content, and now you can post it in threads, Instagram, Facebook, and more places over time. So I think the direction there is generally kind of more flow, not less, and kind of more interoperability.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Because you're trying to build the biggest community that you can in these different places. So it's this huge value for people if they can generate a reel or a video or some text-based content, and now you can post it in threads, Instagram, Facebook, and more places over time. So I think the direction there is generally kind of more flow, not less, and kind of more interoperability.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And that's why I've been kind of pushing on that as a theme over time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And that's why I've been kind of pushing on that as a theme over time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

And that's why I've been kind of pushing on that as a theme over time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. There are different ways to look at this. I always looked at Twitter not as primarily about real-time news, but as a kind of short-form, primarily text, discussion-oriented app. To me, the fundamental defining aspect of that format is that... When you make a post, the comments aren't subordinate to the post.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. There are different ways to look at this. I always looked at Twitter not as primarily about real-time news, but as a kind of short-form, primarily text, discussion-oriented app. To me, the fundamental defining aspect of that format is that... When you make a post, the comments aren't subordinate to the post.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. There are different ways to look at this. I always looked at Twitter not as primarily about real-time news, but as a kind of short-form, primarily text, discussion-oriented app. To me, the fundamental defining aspect of that format is that... When you make a post, the comments aren't subordinate to the post.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

The comments are kind of at a peer level, and that is a very different architecture than every other type of social network that's out there. It's a subtle difference, but within these systems, these subtle differences lead to very different emerging behaviors. So because of that, people can take, they can fork discussions, and it makes it a very good discussion-oriented platform.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

The comments are kind of at a peer level, and that is a very different architecture than every other type of social network that's out there. It's a subtle difference, but within these systems, these subtle differences lead to very different emerging behaviors. So because of that, people can take, they can fork discussions, and it makes it a very good discussion-oriented platform.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

The comments are kind of at a peer level, and that is a very different architecture than every other type of social network that's out there. It's a subtle difference, but within these systems, these subtle differences lead to very different emerging behaviors. So because of that, people can take, they can fork discussions, and it makes it a very good discussion-oriented platform.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Now, news is one thing that people like discussing, but it's not the only thing. And I always looked at Twitter and I was like, hey, this is such a wasted opportunity. Like, this is clearly a billion-person app. You know, maybe in the modern day when you have multiple, like, many billions of people using social apps, it should be multiple billions of people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Now, news is one thing that people like discussing, but it's not the only thing. And I always looked at Twitter and I was like, hey, this is such a wasted opportunity. Like, this is clearly a billion-person app. You know, maybe in the modern day when you have multiple, like, many billions of people using social apps, it should be multiple billions of people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

Now, news is one thing that people like discussing, but it's not the only thing. And I always looked at Twitter and I was like, hey, this is such a wasted opportunity. Like, this is clearly a billion-person app. You know, maybe in the modern day when you have multiple, like, many billions of people using social apps, it should be multiple billions of people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For whatever reason, I mean, there are a lot of things that have been complicated about Twitter and the corporate structure and all that, but they just weren't quite getting there. And eventually... I kind of thought, hey, I think we can do this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For whatever reason, I mean, there are a lot of things that have been complicated about Twitter and the corporate structure and all that, but they just weren't quite getting there. And eventually... I kind of thought, hey, I think we can do this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

For whatever reason, I mean, there are a lot of things that have been complicated about Twitter and the corporate structure and all that, but they just weren't quite getting there. And eventually... I kind of thought, hey, I think we can do this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

I think we can get this, build out the discussion platform in a way that can get to a billion people and be more of a ubiquitous social platform that I think achieves its full potential. But our version of this is we want it to be a kinder place. We don't want it to start with kind of the direct kind of head-to-head combat of news and especially politics. And