Mark Zuckerberg
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other people's view of some of the things that, you know, they were asserting that we were doing wrong or were responsible for that I don't actually think we were. And, you know, that's, it's... There were a lot of things we did mess up and we needed to fix.
other people's view of some of the things that, you know, they were asserting that we were doing wrong or were responsible for that I don't actually think we were. And, you know, that's, it's... There were a lot of things we did mess up and we needed to fix.
But I think that there's this view where when you're a company and someone says that there's an issue, I think the right instinct is to take ownership for it. Say, OK, maybe it's not all our thing, but we're going to fully own this problem. We're going to take responsibility for it. We're going to fix it. But when it's a political problem, I actually think a lot of the time
But I think that there's this view where when you're a company and someone says that there's an issue, I think the right instinct is to take ownership for it. Say, OK, maybe it's not all our thing, but we're going to fully own this problem. We're going to take responsibility for it. We're going to fix it. But when it's a political problem, I actually think a lot of the time
Sometimes there are people who are operating in good faith who are identifying a problem that wants something to be fixed, and there are people who are just looking for someone to blame. And I think to some degree, if you take responsibility for things because you think it's a corporate crisis, not a political crisis, And your view is like, OK, I'm going to take responsibility for all this stuff.
Sometimes there are people who are operating in good faith who are identifying a problem that wants something to be fixed, and there are people who are just looking for someone to blame. And I think to some degree, if you take responsibility for things because you think it's a corporate crisis, not a political crisis, And your view is like, OK, I'm going to take responsibility for all this stuff.
People are basically blaming social media and the tech industry for all these different things in society. And if we're saying, OK, we're going to really do our part to go fix this stuff, I know there were a bunch of people who just took that and were like, oh, you're taking responsibility for that? Let me kick you for more stuff.
People are basically blaming social media and the tech industry for all these different things in society. And if we're saying, OK, we're going to really do our part to go fix this stuff, I know there were a bunch of people who just took that and were like, oh, you're taking responsibility for that? Let me kick you for more stuff.
And honestly, I think we should have been firmer and clearer about which of the things we actually felt like we had a part in and which ones we didn't. And my guess is if the IPO was a year and a half mistake. I think that the political miscalculation was a 20 year mistake. And so it started in 2016.
And honestly, I think we should have been firmer and clearer about which of the things we actually felt like we had a part in and which ones we didn't. And my guess is if the IPO was a year and a half mistake. I think that the political miscalculation was a 20 year mistake. And so it started in 2016.
And I think that we have been working super hard to fix a lot of issues and to figure out kind of what the right tone is for navigating what is a very kind of fraught political dynamic across both the country and multiplied across all these places around the world. And I think we've,
And I think that we have been working super hard to fix a lot of issues and to figure out kind of what the right tone is for navigating what is a very kind of fraught political dynamic across both the country and multiplied across all these places around the world. And I think we've,
sort of found our footing on what the principles are, where we think we need to improve stuff, but where people make allegations about the impact of the tech industry or our company, which are just not founded in any fact, that I think we should push back on harder.
sort of found our footing on what the principles are, where we think we need to improve stuff, but where people make allegations about the impact of the tech industry or our company, which are just not founded in any fact, that I think we should push back on harder.
And I think it's going to take another 10 years or so for us to fully work through that cycle before our brand and all of that is back to the place that it maybe could have been if I hadn't messed that up in the first place. But look, in the grand scheme of things, 20 years isn't that bad either. And we'll get through it. And I think we'll come out stronger.
And I think it's going to take another 10 years or so for us to fully work through that cycle before our brand and all of that is back to the place that it maybe could have been if I hadn't messed that up in the first place. But look, in the grand scheme of things, 20 years isn't that bad either. And we'll get through it. And I think we'll come out stronger.
But I do think that is one of the kind of more interesting critiques that I think people get. And we get critiques on both sides on that. There are people who don't think we've taken enough responsibility. But I think certainly there's one line of critique, which is you kind of bought into too much of the stuff that you shouldn't have.
But I do think that is one of the kind of more interesting critiques that I think people get. And we get critiques on both sides on that. There are people who don't think we've taken enough responsibility. But I think certainly there's one line of critique, which is you kind of bought into too much of the stuff that you shouldn't have.
And yeah, I think it's going to take us a long time to dig out of that.
And yeah, I think it's going to take us a long time to dig out of that.