Mark Zuckerberg
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If that's what I get to do for the next 15 or 20 years, then like, it's gonna be a good 15 or 20 years.
If that's what I get to do for the next 15 or 20 years, then like, it's gonna be a good 15 or 20 years.
No, I think that there might've been something around the way the company shifted in operations around COVID. I mean, it's like the COVID, like all these tech companies went remote temporarily and it was an interesting period to just like get some more time, like a step back. I'm a pretty introverted person and I do think it's,
No, I think that there might've been something around the way the company shifted in operations around COVID. I mean, it's like the COVID, like all these tech companies went remote temporarily and it was an interesting period to just like get some more time, like a step back. I'm a pretty introverted person and I do think it's,
I need to be careful where like, I get a lot of value and energy and ideas from being around other people, but I also need time with myself. And with COVID, I kind of got that. And it was a time of reflection where I was able to think about this stuff. And we were also going through this very difficult political time in the country. And our company was at the center of a lot of those things.
I need to be careful where like, I get a lot of value and energy and ideas from being around other people, but I also need time with myself. And with COVID, I kind of got that. And it was a time of reflection where I was able to think about this stuff. And we were also going through this very difficult political time in the country. And our company was at the center of a lot of those things.
So that was a cause of a bunch of reflection. And then I think that a bunch of the things that we'd, spun up earlier, but at smaller scale. So the Reality Lab stuff that we started in 2014, really, the FAIR stuff around fundamental AI research, 2012, 13? 2012, 2013, sometime around then.
So that was a cause of a bunch of reflection. And then I think that a bunch of the things that we'd, spun up earlier, but at smaller scale. So the Reality Lab stuff that we started in 2014, really, the FAIR stuff around fundamental AI research, 2012, 13? 2012, 2013, sometime around then.
These things, they kind of got started, and they were growing, and it kind of reached this moment which is like, are we going to double down on this and do this, or are we going to kind of do this as a hobby? And I was like, no, I think we should do this. This is going to be a really important part of what we do.
These things, they kind of got started, and they were growing, and it kind of reached this moment which is like, are we going to double down on this and do this, or are we going to kind of do this as a hobby? And I was like, no, I think we should do this. This is going to be a really important part of what we do.
And we had to make a really important set of decisions where we knew it was going to be really painful to... go double down on those things and build out the AI infrastructure that we needed to and scale up some of the Reality Lab stuff. And I knew that a lot of the investors would hate it, at least in the short term before it's clearly the right thing to do.
And we had to make a really important set of decisions where we knew it was going to be really painful to... go double down on those things and build out the AI infrastructure that we needed to and scale up some of the Reality Lab stuff. And I knew that a lot of the investors would hate it, at least in the short term before it's clearly the right thing to do.
What I didn't know was that at the time, I thought they were gonna not like it. But I thought it was going to be OK, because I didn't think there was also going to be a recession at the same time. So that, really, it's like, I mean, look, you learn who you are through challenges.
What I didn't know was that at the time, I thought they were gonna not like it. But I thought it was going to be OK, because I didn't think there was also going to be a recession at the same time. So that, really, it's like, I mean, look, you learn who you are through challenges.
It's like we had a really, OK, losing half of your market cap is quaint compared to losing 80% of your market cap, or whatever it was. But so, I mean, these are all intentional decisions, right? It's like, I mean, there are a lot of conversations that we had, which are like, should we go forward with this? And the answer that I came out with is yes. This is what I believe in.
It's like we had a really, OK, losing half of your market cap is quaint compared to losing 80% of your market cap, or whatever it was. But so, I mean, these are all intentional decisions, right? It's like, I mean, there are a lot of conversations that we had, which are like, should we go forward with this? And the answer that I came out with is yes. This is what I believe in.
I think this is going to be important for the world. I think it's going to work over time. We're no stranger to going through painful periods. In some ways, it makes the company better. Let's do it. Thank you.
I think this is going to be important for the world. I think it's going to work over time. We're no stranger to going through painful periods. In some ways, it makes the company better. Let's do it. Thank you.