Mark Zuckerberg

What do you mean? I was just thinking about other things that I'm doing. What have I started doing? I got into all these more extreme sports and fighting and stuff. I don't know. We face a lot of competition and a lot of different aspects of what we do. There's the social media competitors. There's the platform competitors. I think Apple is a bigger competitor than people realize.

What do you mean? I was just thinking about other things that I'm doing. What have I started doing? I got into all these more extreme sports and fighting and stuff. I don't know. We face a lot of competition and a lot of different aspects of what we do. There's the social media competitors. There's the platform competitors. I think Apple is a bigger competitor than people realize.

They kind of think, hey, they're doing a different type of thing, but... I don't know. I think over the next 10, 15 years, I think that kind of, like, battle over, ideological battle over what should the architecture be of the next set of platforms. Are they going to be the closed, integrated model that Apple has always done?

They kind of think, hey, they're doing a different type of thing, but... I don't know. I think over the next 10, 15 years, I think that kind of, like, battle over, ideological battle over what should the architecture be of the next set of platforms. Are they going to be the closed, integrated model that Apple has always done?

Which, again, I mean, like, there's multiple good ways to build things, right? So I think if you look at the different generations of computing... PCs, mobile, they've all had sort of a closed, integrated version and an open version. And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won.

Which, again, I mean, like, there's multiple good ways to build things, right? So I think if you look at the different generations of computing... PCs, mobile, they've all had sort of a closed, integrated version and an open version. And the thing that I think there's just a ton of recency bias around is because iPhone basically won.

I know that there are more Android phones out there, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far has all the rights in the industry.

I know that there are more Android phones out there, but iPhone is sort of like the intellectual leader and by far has all the rights in the industry.

CHRIS BROADFOOTIS- Yeah. I think that there's the recency bias, and probably almost everyone here has an iPhone. And I think because of the recency bias, there's sort of this view that's like, oh no, this is just the superior way to do things. But I don't actually think that's a given. In the PC era, Windows with the open ecosystem was the leader.

CHRIS BROADFOOTIS- Yeah. I think that there's the recency bias, and probably almost everyone here has an iPhone. And I think because of the recency bias, there's sort of this view that's like, oh no, this is just the superior way to do things. But I don't actually think that's a given. In the PC era, Windows with the open ecosystem was the leader.

And part of my goal for the next 10, 15 years, the next generation of platforms, is to build the next generation of open platforms and have the open platforms win. And I think that that's going to lead to a much more vibrant tech industry. Now, there are advantages of doing a closed and integrated model. I think Apple will have a place for sure. I expect them to be our primary competitor.

And part of my goal for the next 10, 15 years, the next generation of platforms, is to build the next generation of open platforms and have the open platforms win. And I think that that's going to lead to a much more vibrant tech industry. Now, there are advantages of doing a closed and integrated model. I think Apple will have a place for sure. I expect them to be our primary competitor.

And I think it will not be... just a product competition.

And I think it will not be... just a product competition.

I think it's in some ways very deeply values-driven and ideological competition around what the future of the tech industry should be and how open these platforms, whether it's things like Llama and AI or the glasses or different things, should be for developers, like an individual, someone getting started in their dorm room like me, to not have to ask for permission to go build the next set of awesome things.

I think it's in some ways very deeply values-driven and ideological competition around what the future of the tech industry should be and how open these platforms, whether it's things like Llama and AI or the glasses or different things, should be for developers, like an individual, someone getting started in their dorm room like me, to not have to ask for permission to go build the next set of awesome things.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, just do something that you care about, and if you're trying to run our strategy, try to learn as quickly as you can. But I think part of what I'm trying to say is, I think there are different ways to build stuff. It's like our way worked for me and our team. Different things have clearly worked for other companies. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, just do something that you care about, and if you're trying to run our strategy, try to learn as quickly as you can. But I think part of what I'm trying to say is, I think there are different ways to build stuff. It's like our way worked for me and our team. Different things have clearly worked for other companies. I don't know.

One day my daughter, we took her to a Taylor Swift concert and she was like, you know, dad, I kind of want to be like Taylor Swift when I grow up. I was like, you can't. That's not available to you. I was like, but, and she thought about it, and she's like, all right, when I grow up, I want people to want to be like August Chan Zuckerberg. And I was like, hell yeah. Hell yeah.

One day my daughter, we took her to a Taylor Swift concert and she was like, you know, dad, I kind of want to be like Taylor Swift when I grow up. I was like, you can't. That's not available to you. I was like, but, and she thought about it, and she's like, all right, when I grow up, I want people to want to be like August Chan Zuckerberg. And I was like, hell yeah. Hell yeah.