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Mark Zuckerberg

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I mean, maybe the model just ends up being more of the product itself.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

In that case, then I think it's a trickier economic calculation about whether you open source that because then you are kind of commoditizing yourself a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

But from what I can see so far, it doesn't seem like we're in that zone.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

We want to have an arrangement like that, but I don't know how significant it'll be.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And we have this... This is basically our license for Llama.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

You know, in a lot of ways, it's like a very permissive open source license, except that we have a limit for the largest companies using it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And this is why we put that limit in, is we're not trying to prevent them from using it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

We just want them to come talk to us because if they're going to just basically take what we built and resell it and make money off of it, then it's like, okay, well...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

If you're Microsoft Azure or Amazon, then yeah, if you're going to be reselling the model, then we should have some revenue share on that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So just come talk to us before you go do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And that's how that's played out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

So for Lama2, we basically just have deals with all these major cloud companies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And Lama2 is available as a hosted service on all those clouds.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

And

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

I assume that as we release bigger and bigger models, that'll become a bigger thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

It's not the main thing that we're doing, but I just think if those companies are going to be selling our models, it makes sense that we should share the upside of that somehow.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Yeah, no, I think that that's a fair point on the existential risk side.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus

Right now, we focus more on the types of risks that we see today, which are more of these content risks.