Mark Zuckerberg

the current state of most our interactions in the physical world and where we're getting in the future with this kind of hybrid physical and digital world where I think it's going to be a lot easier for people to

kind of take some of these experiences seriously with the photorealistic avatars to start.

And then I'm actually really curious to see where it goes longer term.

I could see a world where people stick to the photorealistic and maybe they modify them to make them a little bit more interesting, but maybe fundamentally we like photorealistic things.

But I can also see a world that once people get used to the photorealistic avatars and they get used to these experiences, that...

I actually think that there could be a world where people actually prefer being able to express themselves in ways that aren't so tied to their physical reality.

That's one of the things that I'm really curious about.

In a bunch of our internal experiments on this, one of the things that

his i thought was psychologically pretty interesting is people have no issues blending photorealistic stuff and not so you know we can have a you know for this specific scene that we're in now we we happen to sort of being in a dark room um i think part of that aesthetic decision i think was based on the way you like to do your podcast but we've we've done experiences like this um

where you have like a cartoony background, but photorealistic people who you're talking to.

And we seem to, like people just seem to just think that that is completely normal, right?

It doesn't bother you.

It doesn't feel like it's weird.

Another thing that we've experienced with is basically you have a photorealistic avatar that you're talking to, and then right next to them, you have an expressive kind of cartoon avatar.

And that actually is pretty normal too, right?

It's not that weird to basically be interacting with different people in different modes like that.

So I'm not sure.

I think it'll be an interesting question to what extent these photorealistic avatars are like

a key part of just transitioning from being comfortable in the physical world to this kind of new modern real world that kind of includes both the digital and physical, or if this is like the long-term way that it stays.

That's a, I mean, I think that there are going to be uses for both the expressive and the photorealistic over time.