Marnie Chesterton

Let's say dung of elephants, dung of rhino.

Of course, we don't know about those cases from Mount Maaba.

I'm talking about in general dung beetles.

Okay.

They go for rotten fruit, for example, or carrion, which we call rotten meat, okay?

That's why when we're doing like a monitoring program, like a survey, like what I did in Mount Mabu,

I have to do several types of baits, like from dung, from rotten fruits or rotten meat, so we can attract a higher divest of dungy communities.

Given, Jumo, that you have discovered, I mean, at least 15 new species of dung beetle, how do you name them all?

Most of them are named after local people.

For example, I have a lot of species named after marble.

We call, for example, Progderus marbuensis is after marble.

I have another species that I named after a friend of mine who passed away the same year that we went there.

So I named him after him, which is Kedaria Ricardo Gutai, because he did a fantastic work on insects of Mozambique as well.

So he deserved it.

Oh, that's lovely that you get to memorialise a friend in a dung beetle.

Gimo, thank you so much for coming on to Unexpected Elements.

Dr. Gimo Daniel, it's been a real pleasure talking dung beetles and sky islands with you.

Thank you very much.

So for this week's theme of Africa Day, we've discovered that this huge continent is breaking apart faster than we'd imagined.

We've also unpicked the complex issues of language in science and we've just found out about the sky island of Mount Mabu in Mozambique.