Martha Beck

And that is intense.

And you've been through it.

You've all been through it, right?

It's not fun, but to be set free by suffering is usually the way it starts.

People start looking and then there are different ways of finding.

Well, you might be surprised, actually, because sometimes I sent like I just sent this one client, really, really high achieving, hard driving young man in circles in Washington where he was very influential and all his projects had been collapsing.

And I said, you're pushing so hard.

Like you've got to stop pushing.

Everything in you is straining.

And I know for a fact that straining isn't the way to make things work.

So he started meditating, came back and he was doing a little better.

And then I said, you know, go even more.

So he went out into the wilderness and he stayed there for like a couple of weeks meditating and he let go of everything.

And he literally said I was ready to do nothing because he had been suffering a lot.

And he came out of the wilderness and Afghanistan was happening.

The U.S.

started to pull out of Afghanistan.

And he said, within three weeks...

He had raised $17 million for welcoming Afghan refugees into the US.

He'd gotten a board together that includes the Clintons, the Bushes, and the Obamas.