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Marti DeLima

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270 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

They were strangers.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Some of the scam cases that would come through involved older adults who were approached by scammers in person.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Sometimes they would be pumping gas at the gas station or they would be at the supermarket.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And it was often a young woman who would come up to an older gentleman, say...

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Oh, I'm in an abusive relationship.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

I'm running away.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Can I get some money?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And then that would just start this predatory relationship where in the end, in some of these cases, the woman would move in to the older adult's home, move them into a back room or get them placed in a nursing home.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

It is.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And scams have changed so much since then.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

This was in 2013, 2014.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Absolutely.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And then you're safer from prosecution.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

If you don't reside in the United States, why spend all of your effort trying to meet people in person?

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

That's really costly when you can blast out an email to thousands of people.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Some of the cases that we encountered were lottery scams.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

And it was almost like no amount of reasoning with the older adult would be enough to safeguard them and have them walk away.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

You first get some windfall, some reward.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

Often in a lottery, it's money.

Freakonomics Radio
667. Here’s Why You Are Constantly Fighting Off Scammers

But in order to get that money, you have to pay taxes.