Martin Devlin

The Crusaders seem to have that on them, don't they?

So, no, it's not...

a lot that you can say is a weakness.

I think what you have to do in a game like this, Martin, is ensure that your weaknesses don't come to the fore, so focus on what your strengths can do.

Also, apply pressure that is continuous.

I don't think it's about finding a magic moment against the Chiefs with how they're built, particularly at home.

I think you've just got to apply pressure and let pressure build, stack pressure on pressure, pressure

stack field position on field position, and then look for the moment that can break.

They don't break easy, but you can find moments through that type of accumulation of pressure, if that makes sense.

Yeah, thanks, Martin.

It was a real...

solid uh implementation of the plan by the players i thought they all did a good job with that day and um uh it's not easy but we got that win but it's not dissimilar in this match the chiefs uh as i just mentioned you've got to accumulate the right amount of pressure in the right way and then and then and then you might find that moment that comes i don't you can chase magic moments throughout the game against the chief so we we've got a plan that we're we're

planning for, and we've had two days of preparation for it.

We fly tomorrow, we've got a captain's run, so it's a short prep, but we've made a fairly specific plan that hopefully we can put together effectively and make sure that pressure does come back on top of the Chiefs.

It's important going for them, isn't it, as well?

For them to win this.

They've had three finals in the last year they haven't been able to win.

There's another form of pressure that they're feeling.

We've got to try and make sure that we can

push that into that psychic psychological space where they feel whoa is this going to happen or not happen and hopefully we've got the game that can do that and the um