Martin Koppelmann

And by that, the EEZ overall could become

Yeah, significantly bigger than Ethereum today.

So kind of just as a rough idea, if you just look at DEX trading volume, then roughly 50% today are on Ethereum and 50% are on the Layer 2s combined.

So yeah, by that metric, you would already double the kind of liquidity trading volume.

Yeah, so actually, I think it was at also your Bankless Summit for one and a half years ago, last DEF CON, where I think Eric Wall gave a talk about trying to build an application on Ethereum Layer 2s.

And it was kind of impossible because he wanted NFTs and he wanted to use the NFT from one chain on or from one Layer 2 on another Layer 2.

And

Basically, that was more or less impossible to build and that is more or less impossible to build today.

But yeah, so basically just echoing that goes beyond the financial use cases, everything where you need composability, yeah, those things will become, again, much easier.

Yeah, I would say, yes, that is correct.

On the other hand, to make it work, there's still... So there is the... There will be some coordination effort needed.

So essentially...

Let's start with one chain.

So you are one chain and you want to have the synchronous composability with Ethereum.

Then essentially you are doing a transaction that might affect Ethereum and your chain.

So again, that needs to be tightly coupled.

And the way Ethereum blocks are produced nowadays is mainly through builders.

Now,

There can be, of course, conflicting transactions.

So let's say there's an Ethereum kind of regular L1 transaction that touches a specific liquidity pool.