Martin Koppelmann

ultimately transaction fees and MEV or kind of just economic relevance of building those L1 blocks.

Certainly, certainly.

maybe you had this metaphor of what is tying it together.

So here it's really the interest of being able to access this state of Ethereum.

So for example, the liquidity.

So if you want to allow your users to do a trade on your layer two, that in that trade also accesses Ethereum liquidity and touch a state, then you need to have this

the settlement kind of with Ethereum in, in, in the next block or, yeah, or essentially every block.

So the, again, the big benefit is that, that, yeah, also kind of for bridging.

So, so essentially you send tokens from Ethereum to your chain and they are immediately available.

You can immediately, in that, in that sense, there is no bridging.

The, the,

Of course, again, where does practically this reorg thing comes from?

So if now something comes out of Ethereum, let's say tokens are sent to your chain and you're immediately using them on your layer two, sending them forward, using them in a DEX, and then it turns out this Ethereum transaction never happens because Ethereum gets reorg'd.

Yeah, then you have to deal with this.

And the easiest way to deal with this is to reorg your chain to this level as well.

So I would say this is the only downside essentially coming from EZ.

And I would also say, I would say, well, if I had a wish for an Ethereum roadmap, I would say single slot finality would essentially solve that problem.

Right.

Yeah, I would say it's largely a complexity problem.

So in practice, reorgs happen very rarely.