Mary Heim

Yes.

That just makes it feel like you are really holding something substantial when you are reading it.

So yes, highly recommend.

I think it will be for you, Meredith.

That's why it sounds familiar.

Meredith, now as you're talking about this, I am remembering that I put almost every single book from Two Friends Indie Press List episode on my TBR and I put them all in my cart and I have not yet checked out.

And so what better time than talking about this with you today that I think it's time to finally place my order.

Because that sounds spectacular.

And that is a hard balance to find in romanticism now.

It almost made me feel like I wasn't a fantasy reader that I am kind of stepping away from.

I'm not interested in a ton of the romanticism that's out right now, but I really do and really enjoy very specific ones.

And this sounds like absolutely that.

I love doing these episodes with you, Meredith, because it's funny.

As a therapist, I do find myself at the right times recommending books to clients, especially those for whom I know that a book recommendation will land well.

So yes, absolutely.

I'm not acting as a therapist here today.

I'm acting as a reader who also happens to have this whole other part of my life, right?

As a therapist, this is like...

my vocational meant this isn't just my job this is like who I am so I love when we get to meld these two together and talk about books and like well-being and the hard stuff of life being a human I love getting to have these conversations with you

Yeah.