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Mary Helen Immordino-Yang

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612 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And then, you know, here's Mary Helen's work.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

Grade her assignment.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And then, after a bunch of their own kids, we gave them a bunch of kids' assignments that we told them were not their own kids' work.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And we told them we had taken those off the internet.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And actually what we had done, though, is written those assignments to be matched in quality

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And what we found was that, first, the teachers graded the two assignments the same way.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

So, you know, you gave Mary Helen a B over here and you gave the fake answer that we pulled off the Internet from a kid that thinks like Mary Helen also a B, right?

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

So they knew what they were doing.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

But what we found was that the brain activity when they graded their own students versus students they didn't know was massively more.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

All over the brain, we see increases in activity in regions involved in motivation, attention, memory, emotion, autobiographical thinking, ideas, beliefs, consciousness, right?

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

These teachers are doing more mental, social, affective work when they're seeing their own kids' assignments than when they're seeing the assignments that are the same but by kids they don't know.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

What that tells us is that excellent teachers are doing work that is deeply social and emotional and effortful, even beyond what's required to just accomplish the teaching task, which is grading the assignment.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

So what was accounting for the difference in the brain activity in the two conditions?

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

We asked these same teachers to provide open-ended feedback to their students.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And so we said, here's your student Mary Helen.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

What would you say to Mary Helen if you had a meeting with her about how she's doing?

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

Here's your student Shankar.

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

What would you say to Shankar if you had a meeting with him about who he's doing?

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

And what we were looking for was to what degree do teachers understand

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Hidden Brain
How Our Brains Learn

actually appreciate and support actively in their feedback to their students the whole development of that young person's capacities of mind.

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