Mary Louise Kelly

The treaty that just expired, New Start, it was known as, the Russians actually offered to extend it.

Trump administration said, no, we want something better.

And so it expired.

Now we have nothing.

Good idea?

Missed opportunity?

What do you think?

But is any treaty that could be any kind of agreement toothless if China isn't in it?

What about the Europeans?

Since we're standing here in Munich, in Germany, the buzz in Europe is all about figuring out how to navigate a world where they may not be able to rely on the US nuclear umbrella.

Can Europe still rely on the US nuclear umbrella?

What about where does France fit in?

They're currently...

Sounds like you hope for forever that is the only country on the European continent with nuclear weapons.

So, bottom line, to bring us back to where we started, are we looking at a future where school kids are going to be hiding under their desks again for nuclear drills?

And if not literally, I guess I mean...

Are we going to be raising children in a generation that feels the peril, that feels the world is getting less safe because of nuclear weapons than more?

And when you say we may be in a moment of a new nuclear arms race,

Why?

Is that dictated by the fact that countries feel increasingly insecure and like the world is shifting around them?