Mary Louise Kelly

Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin is on record saying, and I quote, an ICE officer fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement, and the safety of the public fired defensive shots, end quote.

Defensive shots.

Was this an act, as far as you can tell, of self-defense?

So you're saying wait for the investigation.

There are videos, as I'm sure you know, videos of the shooting that are circulating online.

An ICE officer appears to be shooting into the front window of a moving vehicle.

Have you seen these videos, Chief?

What do you make of them?

I do want to ask just about the ICE footprint in your city.

Officials in Minneapolis and state officials, the governor of Minnesota, have been weighing in.

The mayor had strong words saying ICE should get out.

I want to play for you.

We just interviewed Minnesota Senator Tina Smith, a Democrat.

She said this on our air just within the last hour.

Brian O'Hara, would you respond to that?

Has ICE been helping or hindering your officers in trying to keep your city safe?

Thank you so much.

Brian O'Hara is Minneapolis Police Chief.

Thank you.

This episode was produced by Michael Levitt, Daniel Offman, and Karen Zamora, with audio engineering by Ted Meebane.