Mary Margaret Olihan

But what he was saying is that the Democrat interest in the files was the hoax.

And, you know, obviously he did not want them released.

He made that very clear.

But I think it is an interesting point to look at the fact that Democrats really, truly were not interested in Epstein or the files until this became a thing, until they viewed it as a weakness for the president.

And now and I know you've talked about this and Vince has talked about this.

There's a lot of stuff coming out in the files showing that there were Democrats and high profile left leaning journalists and people on the left who were mentioned in the files and who actually had cozier relationships with Epstein than they're trying to say that Trump and other figures on the right had.

So that's concerning on multiple levels.

I talked to someone last week that was kind of, you know, they were person on the right.

They were laughing and they were like, I think Democrats are getting some angry phone calls from some high profile people lately.

Because look, you have people who were involved.

Stacey Plaskett, for example, she was in this congressional hearing that had to do with the president.

She's literally texting Jeffrey Epstein, seemingly receiving advice from him on what course to pursue.

You got Jeffrey Epstein talking to other people about how to blackmail Trump, how to use things against him.

So just multiple examples of these high profile people on the left who are more implicated than than they would like to admit.

So the White House is perceiving this as an opportunity.

They're like, OK, well, you guys really wanted these out here.

Let's show the people who are in your party who are closely aligned with you that were involved in this, that were implicated in these files.

And they're really leaning into that.

And, you know, I talked to Donald Trump Jr.

about this last week, actually, and he had a really interesting perspective.