Mat Ellis

We'll be double, double, double.

So sometime, I think by the end of next year, we'll be over 50.

Many years ago, I started video games.

And about 20 years later, I saw a visual effect in a game on a PlayStation with my kids.

It was something I invented in the mid-'80s.

Very simple effect.

You just close the screen like this.

And it gave me tremendous satisfaction.

It's something I built in the 80s and is still being used 20 years later.

The people who joined Calibility are about improving the way that cloud affects technology and technology affects the world.

We are thinking about a capital structure that takes us through the next recession.

We think that optimizations can become mandatory, like virtualization did in the 2002, 2003, 2004 recession.

And we're looking forward to what will we continue to make compute more efficient.

With all that data we collect, we have got a mountain of data.

We think that once it becomes clear, the way the cloud is done, is it serverless, is it containers, what makes the infrastructure to containers,

to pass and things, it happens.

We think there's an opportunity to roll up the business and become like a broader compute platform.

But if you're trying to do all things to all people today, you're going to lose in every vertical.

You've got to win in one vertical and then combine the winning vertical, the winning solutions, and that happens when the industry matures.

So in some time in the next five years or mature, we will probably be an IPO.