Mat Sundin

And...

When he joined the Leafs in 2014, he was AGM.

Dubas paid for four years or three years or whatever.

I think it was four.

I think it was three, but it doesn't matter.

Under Lou.

and then he took over and you know weirdly it didn't go great and we're all supposed to be shocked so there are going to be people that argue hey well listen that means they're a maverick organization they're doing things differently again i just don't trust the guy at the top making that call now the next person to ask a question so how do you guys feel about steve simmons like asking that question like you're okay i'm okay with i have no problem with it and i have no problem with the answer either because i have no problem with the answer either yeah

You know what?

I do have a problem with the answer.

I have a problem with the answer in the sense that they didn't answer it, which is a theme of this press conference.

People are going to say to me, Adam, it's corporate speak.

This is how they do every press conference.

Actually, no.

Go back and watch Burke.

Go back and watch True Living.

Go back and watch Shani.

They actually do tell you things.

These guys haven't told you shit.

And that's the part that freaks me out.

Oh, we got a plan and we're so smart.