Matt Abrahams

There's so much richness in that.

And I think we just have to open up that conversation, role model it, but also talk about it with the younger people in your life, the people you're trying to build up.

And that'll really help.

I don't know about the Gen Z stare, but I do think there are critical periods in development, not just in kids.

And I think that generation of kids lost a critical development.

One of my sons was in high school, and high school is a great place to learn about yourself and about communication.

And if you're doing it through a screen, that's a very different experience.

Now, I think he's a very good communicator, but they –

They missed on an opportunity.

A lot of how you learn is by testing and trying things out.

And if you lost a couple of years of that testing, it puts you at a disadvantage.

I know because of what I do, we can build that back and learn it.

But there is a whole swath of people who had to struggle in a way most of us didn't.

My father, most intelligent person I've ever known.

He was very quiet.

But he wasn't shy, and if he had something to say, he would say it, and it would often be very profound.

And it was the way he lived in the world, and people appreciated it, and he leaned into it.

He had opportunities to speak and would sit back.

And I learned a lot from him that sometimes the most effective communication is to just listen and be present.

So I agree that there are people who have a lot of value to add, and they just might be reticent in the moment.