Matt Bernstein

I didn't find it fulfilling.

And my mind goes, oh yeah, well probably when all of the fucking arrests and murders in the street and kidnapping of undocumented immigrants working their jobs at Home Depot got out of control, like maybe there was a moral conflict, whatever.

So anyway, back to Doge.

Like I said, the attorney gives him a chance to reflect openly on the work he did in Doge, and here is what Date has to say.

Yeah, yes.

In an effort to, like, genuinely try to understand how someone could think like this, I mean, how can you acknowledge outright we didn't accomplish our goals, we didn't do anything substantively good for anyone, and we only hurt people and I have no regrets?

Like...

I feel like I genuinely it feels sociopathic.

I just don't.

I don't know if you have insight into people who are true believers like this, who really have no shame, like on a real level.

Like, how do you become like a comic book villain?

Crystal, there were, as you just said, cuts across all different agencies, many of which are and will be responsible for.

for mass death.

And there was all sorts of rewiring of how money was spent as a result of these cuts.

A lot of the money did continue getting spent.

It was not just cut.

It was just redirected.

And in the context of the National Endowment for the Humanities, which we focused on today because that is the basis for this lawsuit, that is why these people are being deposed.

I hope we get depositions from the kids who were responsible for cutting USAID and all of the science programs as well.

But with regard to NEH, do you know specifically where much of the funds saved from slashing these grants are now supposed to go to?