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Matt Bevan

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1560 total appearances

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

To understand how bad the data sharing was, think about information being like marbles in jars.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

The FBI has a jar of marbles.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

The CIA has one.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

And the local police have one.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Each agency controls their own information, their own marbles.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Sharing marbles between them is incredibly complicated.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

This whole system keeps things secure, but it means they basically can't work together.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

And that problem was going to come into sharp focus for John O'Neill.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

As he probed the World Trade Center attack of 1993, he became interested in one particular marble...

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

he believed the CIA had.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

One that most counter-terrorism experts at the time weren't paying attention to.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

In 1998, ABC America reporter Chris Isham, a personal friend of John O'Neill, trekked for 10 days across Pakistan to interview the leader of a little-known extremist group called al-Qaeda.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Osama bin Laden.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

But Chris Isham and John O'Neill shared a growing interest in this old uncle in the Pakistani wilderness, who during the interview seemed pretty harmless.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Bin Laden's handlers wouldn't allow anyone to translate the Sheikh's answers.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

It was only when the interview was finished and the producers sent the tapes back to be translated that they learned what this seemingly harmless man was saying.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Hmm, maybe not as harmless as he seems.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

When he saw this interview, John O'Neill became fixated on Bin Laden.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

He was sure that after a number of failed attacks on American sites, that the US was due for another domestic attack and that Osama Bin Laden would be the person to do it.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

He tried hard to raise the alarm within the FBI, but because Bin Laden was an international threat, it was outside his remit.