Matt Bevan

My supervising producer Cara has been helping with writing these episodes, which means that she has even more tabs open than usual, and she's got a story that she's somehow managed to keep from me entirely.

It's about why the FBI and the CIA weren't getting along, and as a result, were not sharing their data, which was one of the key contributing factors to 9-11 being able to be pulled off without the terrorists being detected beforehand.

I'm told it's a story that contains all my favourite elements, but that is all she's told me.

Cara Jensen-McKinnon, hello.

Honestly, Cara, I don't know that I've ever enjoyed hearing a story more than when you told me the story about the humanoid robot.

And then we're sort of chugging along in the story and I'm going, oh, yeah, it's an interesting story.

And then the robot pulls out a gun.

I like a story that involves a robot pulling out a gun, really.

I keep looking for that in every story.

That's the main thing that I'm hoping for this week.

There may or may not be a gun in this.

I also have seen your current situation with tabs on your screen and it's not good, Cara, it's bad.

Adair is listening and Adair, I want you to, while you're listening to this, get that picture of Cara's tabs and count how many there are and tell us at the end because people will be mortified.

Let's go.

It's actually a massive coincidence that you're telling this story because I have recorded an episode of No One Saw It Coming with Mark Finnell.

that is about bugging inside the US embassy in Moscow.

Yes.

We're sort of talking about this and how distrustful they are and that kind of thing in this same period.

It's fascinating that we're back in this period.

I'm excited about that.