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Matt Bevan

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

He became obsessed with researching Islamic extremism, and quickly became an expert on the growing threat of terrorism on American soil.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

As he continued rising through the ranks of the FBI's counterterrorism department, he was cognizant of the importance of balancing the need to keep people safe with the infringement on their personal privacy.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Ordered liberty.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

A balance between government surveillance and individual freedom.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

In the US, the government surveillance side of the seesaw is populated by lots of different intelligence agencies.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

There's local police and the FBI keeping an eye on people domestically, and the CIA keeping tabs on potential threats abroad.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

But in the 1990s, that system had a serious flaw.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Each of those agencies gathered their own data, but sharing data between them was complicated.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

To understand how bad the data sharing was, think about information being like marbles in jars.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

The FBI has a jar of marbles.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

The CIA has one.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

And the local police have one.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Each agency controls their own information, their own marbles.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

Sharing marbles between them is incredibly complicated.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

This whole system keeps things secure, but it means they basically can't work together.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

And that problem was going to come into sharp focus for John O'Neill.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

As he probed the World Trade Center attack of 1993, he became interested in one particular marble...

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

he believed the CIA had.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

One that most counter-terrorism experts at the time weren't paying attention to.

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How did Palantir get so powerful?

In 1998, ABC America reporter Chris Isham, a personal friend of John O'Neill, trekked for 10 days across Pakistan to interview the leader of a little-known extremist group called al-Qaeda.