Matt Clement

I think they did.

Yeah.

Or finish second.

I think maybe right in that range this year, the penguins are having a capital like season, but if they don't even make the playoffs, I think limits thinks they're going to come back next year and maybe take a step back because again, this is not the Oh eight penguins.

They don't have a core of 20 year olds here.

Crack on limits before we get into this.

That is a separate question.

Do we still think they'll get in, put a percentage on it?

Bob just said he thinks they're going to get in and then put 50-50 on it.

It has to be at least 51-49 if you think so.

I think they're going to get in, so by definition, I think a better than 50% chance.

Those guys see him every day.

scouts and coaches thank you ron i'm gonna say 60 40 they get in because they still hold significant advantages over the islanders the tiebreaker regulation wins team that's really falling apart and that's a team that had bigger expectations than the penguins so i think the flyers are still too far back to catch them in the metro although it's still possible it's possible but they'd have to go on a heated run they lost last night so that's not going to help them they have a game in hand i think don't they the flyers

The Penguins have a game in hand on the Islanders.

They're one point up and they own the tiebreaker and they play head to head.

So I still think that they're going to do it.

Plus, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, Bob.

I think what they've done so far this season is earn a little faith from us.

And I think they may still have a little magic to them.

And I think Sidney Crosby may will them right into the playoffs.